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You are receiving this message because you are on the update list for Palestine-Israel articles 5. The drafters note that the scope of the case was somewhat unclear, and clarify that the scope is The interaction of named parties in the WP:PIA topic area and examination of the WP:AE process that led to two referrals to WP:ARCA. Because this was unclear, two changes are being made:

First, the Committee will accept submissions for new parties for the next three days, until 23:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC). Anyone who wishes to suggest a party to the case may do so by creating a new section on the evidence talk page, providing a reason with WP:DIFFS as to why the user should be added, and notifying the user. After the three-day period ends, no further submission of parties will be considered except in exceptional circumstances. Because the Committee only hears disputes that have failed to be resolved by the usual means, proposed parties should have been recently taken to AE/AN/ANI, and either not sanctioned, or incompletely sanctioned. If a proposed party has not been taken to AE/AN/ANI, evidence is needed as to why such an attempt would have been ineffective.

Second, the evidence phase has been extended by a week, and will now close at 23:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC). For the Arbitration Committee, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement

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OK, so the judgment is in. You have any suggestions on what I can do? I know the notice says I can appeal, but I'm not sure trying to appeal the sanction immediately after it was handed down is a good idea. Mk8mlyb (talk) 02:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mk8mlyb, there are many articles on Wikipedia which aren't about the Palestine-Israel conflict. Anything from articles about chemistry to history to art. And they all have ways they could be improved. So, find some of those to work on, find some good sources to work from, and start in. My other advice, for you specifically, would be to drop the tone of "Well of course this is what I'm doing, because my way is right and yours is wrong" that you seemed to be taking previously. An approach like that will rarely lead to constructive dialogue; it will just put people's back up. If you can work constructively in other areas for some months, I think you'd find people quite willing to consider lifting the ban after that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. For the record, the reason I took the stance I did was because I had heard news of pro-Palestine and pro-Hamas protests celebrating the October 7 attack, many of which turned violent and into attempts to target Jews. I was deeply upset by this, and when I looked at Wikipedia's coverage of the conflict, I felt that it was promoting the same narratives that were used to justify the terrorist attack. I still stand by my belief that Wikipedia's rules and policies, such as WP:NPOV, are not being properly followed or are being twisted to promote anti-Israel bias and anti-semitic tropes, though I don't think the people involved are antisemitic. You have the right to disagree, but that's just how I feel. I have a few questions, though: can I edit the Israel or the Palestine articles in any way? Or are those off-limits too? Mk8mlyb (talk) 06:48, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please remember that while it is not a violation of your ban to request clarification on it, you cannot discuss the subject itself anywhere on Wikipedia, including here. You certainly cannot edit the articles about Israel or Palestine. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, OK. By the way, how do you like my recent editing on this page? Mk8mlyb (talk) 05:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not the biggest baseball fan myself (I know, I get some trouble for it already), but I know statistics are quite important to many people who follow it, so I'm sure someone will appreciate having the details there! Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:57, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know how long it takes for editors to become administrators, on average? How long did it take you? Mk8mlyb (talk) 06:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not gained by tenure. The community has to approve a request for adminship. It took me about a year and a half, but that was a long time ago. Seraphimblade Talk to me 11:25, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, understood. Can I edit the Iran article? Mk8mlyb (talk) 02:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hypothetically you could as long as you are very careful to avoid any material in it regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But it would be very easy to stumble into that, and I don't think that's a wise choice. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I have a question to ask. What do you think of Ronald Reagan? I personally think he's one of the greatest presidents ever, but he made some mistakes and I don't see him as a god. So I'll understand if you don't agree. Mk8mlyb (talk) 05:31, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for asking, but I'm really not interested in getting into any on-wiki discussions regarding politics. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Merry Christmas! I have a question to ask. Do you know anyone on here that is on Tv Tropes? I'd like to talk to them. Mk8mlyb (talk) 06:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've occasionally read something on TV Tropes, but I don't know a thing about it other than that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment

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AFD Closer Tej Giri (feedback)

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Hello,

A couple of months ago, you closed the draft with the result "delete." Thank you for handling the closure. However, I noticed that the draft had limited discussion. I believe moving the draft instead of closing it outright might have been a better decision, especially if the AfD concluded without a definitive result.

The limited discussion made it difficult for me to fully understand the core issues, which I believe could be addressed in the future. I would appreciate feedback on the specific reasons that led to the "delete" outcome. If possible, I kindly request restoring the draft and initiating a talk page discussion to facilitate improvement.

AFD link : Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tej Giri

Thank you. Endrabcwizart (talk) 07:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As the closer of an AfD, I am not making the decision on what I personally think should happen with the article, just evaluating the discussion. So, I have nothing to add to what you would find there. The reason for the "delete" outcome is that this was the consensus the discussion reached. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 December 2024

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Greetings of the season

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A Merry Christmas. (Sled with holly)
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